[mark s]

good man,keep it up.

[Fiend]

Did same session as the other week. Didn't manage the first 140 so had to have a little word with myself and then did 3 x 1, just.

Doesn't feel like my grip is the weak point, how would I know?

[mark s]

you'd be surprised how much grip holds you back.for the low price of them.give them a go.

[measles23]

Yeah I wasn't expecting much difference as grip isn't my weak point, also I thought it might feel a bit like missing the point, seeing as how you'd think grip is important to train for climbing..

However..

-It seems to purify the exercise and allows you focus purely on the pull..
-Went from 5x1x170 last week to 2x1x190 this week just by adding the straps..
-I suspect grip strength from weights transfers to climbing about as well as those spring loaded finger exercises, ie fuck-all

Mark can you use a mixed grip with straps or will it all end up unravelling??

[rodma]

Yeah I wasn't expecting much difference as I wrongly believed that grip isn't my weak point

Fixed that for you

[Fiend]

But then I might look like a proper gym person instead of an out-of-place climber in silly stockings 

And also will I still get the tick? 

[a dense loner]

Of course you'll still get the tick, but if you don't mention you did it with straps that's a different story 

[measles23]

And if it ain't on video it didn't happen - I'm already preparing some 'driving to the gym' footage..

And also will I still get the tick? 

It still qualifies as an unequipped lift - for an equipped DL you'll need to try on one of these bad-ass mankinis:



Hate to murder the cliche but that really is a strong look!

[mark s]

Mark can you use a mixed grip with straps or will it all end up unravelling??

i always use a mixed grip,right palm away as thats my stronger arm.

gripping a bar is not like crimping etc,straps will allow you to train all the big muscles that the deadlift is used for.
its back day at the gym,not done d/l for a bit so might do a few today.wont try and do a p.b though.

[the_dom]

175kgs yesterday morning. 2.05xBW. Psyched.

[Fiend]

  + 

[mark s]

More and more doing deadlifts at my gym.its not something alot of people do,must be because they are hard work.
Did some today,did enough but didn't try and do any pb's
10x60
10x100
10x140
6x180
2x200

Did them first while still freash

[a dense loner]

Is freash a leek term you big bastard? 

[tomtom]

Is freash a leek term you big bastard? 

Sounds more weegie to me...

[mark s]

Is freash a leek term you big bastard? 

oh yaeah looks like i stauck an extraa letter ina

[Fiend]

Daamn you Shaarratt for giving me/us encouragment for deadlifting, I'm never going to climb 9a now...

2XBW

(with wrist-straps as recommended)

(actually 2.06XBW, I weighed in at 77.5kg at the time)

Did 5 mins rowing, then:

1x5x100
1x5x110
1x5x120
straps on
1x3x130
1x1x140
1x1x150
1x1x155
2x1x160
1x1x155
tried 1x1x150, couldn't do it
1x3x120 warm down - tried 1x5x, couldn't do it

So there we go. Goal for the year achieved, I'm off to climb some HVSes with my extra-beefy thighs.

Although on a more relevant note, I did do 3x2 pull-ups with 30kg weight added.

[mark s]

good effort,you will soon be going the gym and f'ing off the climbing hehe .getting strong is more addictive.

all the best climbs are HVS ,no need to train for those.just get big and strong and do nice little routes ....2 boxes ticked

[Fiend]

Wise words Might have a visit to Ramshaw HVS cracks this summer

[the_dom]

Daamn you Shaarratt for giving me/us encouragment for deadlifting, I'm never going to climb 9a now...

2XBW

(with wrist-straps as recommended)

(actually 2.06XBW, I weighed in at 77.5kg at the time)

....

So there we go. Goal for the year achieved, I'm off to climb some HVSes with my extra-beefy thighs.

Although on a more relevant note, I did do 3x2 pull-ups with 30kg weight added.

BOOM! Good work!

[benno]

I ordered some wrist straps (the cheapest figure of 8 ones off amazon) and they've arrived today! Looking forward to trying them out, particularly as my grip was RUBBISH last time I was in the gym. It felt as though my form was going to shit because I was anxious about dropping the bar more than anything else. It was ungodly hot in there, so conditions were far from optimal 

So saying, I'm aiming to get up to the mythical realm of 2BW, which I think should happen pretty soon with the straps and then was intending to just hang around at that weight (155kg) whilst trying to get up to it without the straps. Is there any point in this, do we reckon? I've read in this thread that the grip strength for deadlifts is "not applicable to climbing" but I fail to see how stronger forearms can't help, even if it's not exactly the same hand position. I get the line of argument that says grip shouldn't hold you back from achieving your target, but what if you're already there?

In other news, doing deadlifts, squats and standing dumbbell military press and side and front raises has done more to sort out my shoulder posture in 6 months than stretching alone has done in two years. It's been two whole days now since I've had my right shoulder clunk back into position when rolling my shoulders back. Feels very weird, in a good way  Quite glad I took up the corporate gym membership after all...

[Muenchener]

standing dumbbell military press ... has done more to sort out my shoulder posture in 6 months than stretching alone has done in two years.

I'm doing a set that I picked up from a youtube video from one of the Gym Jones types. Ten presses on one side, hold at the top for ten seconds, repeat until done, change sides. I'm nearly through the third set of presses with a 6kg kettlebell

(I actually bought the 6kg kettlebell for my son, but then it turned  to be super useful for things like extra fingerboarding weight, reverse wrist curls etc)

[a dense loner]

The grip will tire your forearm out pointlessly, best to leave it for climbing the day after or the day after that. Just stick with the straps now you've made the leap

[benno]

Good point, well made.

[tommytwotone]

re: deadlifting in general!


 

[Fiend]

Is there any point in this, do we reckon?

Yeah, cos it will shut Tris Fox up and stop him waffling on about wrist straps being cheating despite that bloody video of Arnie congratulating the guy doing a world record with straps. Mark do you fancy meeting up at Ramshaw or something next time Tris and I are down in the peak, so you can beat his fat arse with your 140kg pressing arms??


(i.e. no but it's up to you, I might do the same, just for fun)