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#475 Re: Deadlifting
March 18, 2015, 08:51:32 pm
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Does the grip diameter stay the same or is that also bigger on an olympic bar ?

The grip diameter on a proper olympic bar is 28mm for men, and 25mm for women. A dedicated powerlifting bar will be a little fatter eg 29mm+, to reduce the springiness, which would be unhelpful for DLs and squats at heavier weights. There are plenty of cheaper bars around though, billed as olympic bars, with 50mm dia collars, 2200mm length and fatter bar diameters, but which won't be great for C&J or snatch.

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#476 Re: Deadlifting
March 18, 2015, 09:48:36 pm
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#477 Re: Deadlifting
March 19, 2015, 11:32:14 am
Just busted out my deadlift PB - nothing special since it's only 1 x BW but a milestone anyway! Up till now I've only ever done them as knee physio/rehab and therefore instead of going heavier I was told to go wobblier - one leg, then one leg on a wobble board etc.

Also did a 0.7 x BW squat which I'm quite chuffed with as I had a pretty dodgy left knee since the autumn (heel hook, swelling, pain etc.). and my knee felt great.

I'm going to hurt tomorrow probably!

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#478 Re: Deadlifting
March 19, 2015, 11:55:05 am
I've been getting the weights psyche back again, since my finger skin is semi-permanently fucked from bouldering a lot in the last 2 months, and I feel the urge to push my body somehow.

Still working towards the elusive 2XBW4LYFEBITCHES (that's 2XBW deadlift not benchpress Mark S). Without having done any proper weights for 2 years, I'm back up to my previous PB of 120kg in a couple of sessions.

Today I warmed up with 10 mins rowing then a few light bicep curls and shoulder presses whilst waiting for a free bar.

Then did:
2 x 5 x 90
2 x 3 x 110
2 x 2 x 120
3 x 1 x 130
1 x 5 x 110 (warm down)

130 feels hard to me. The others I can concentrate on smoothness and good style, 130 is just about getting it off the ground. Unfortunately unlike you skinny shitebags I've got to get to 150 to be 2 x 75 so still quite a way to go. I will keep trying.


Nice post Fiend - the 2XBW thing is something I'd like to tick as well, but as my bodyweight is creeping up this is moving the goalposts on an almost weekly basis!


As a skinny shortarse I'm aiming for 130kg and have got to a 1RM of 100kg so will tweak those weights and see how we go.








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#479 Re: Deadlifting
March 19, 2015, 03:56:32 pm


There's my somewhat sweet setup. I actually have no idea how much my bars weighs! I use the shorter one for deadlifts etc as you can see it doesn't fit the rack (just stuck it there for comparison).

Thinking about it they must be alot heavier as you say Nibs, I'll get them on the scales at some point!  :lol:

Anyone else have the problem of grazing their shins at the beginning and end of the lifts? Especially when lifting heavy.

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#480 Re: Deadlifting
March 19, 2015, 03:58:29 pm
Nice. Pretty sure the long bar is the 20kg ones they have at the gym I use.

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#481 Re: Deadlifting
March 19, 2015, 04:03:25 pm
my 1rep max just went up by 10kg, cheers fiend. Can you work that magic for my crimp now  :2thumbsup:

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#482 Re: Deadlifting
March 19, 2015, 04:24:15 pm

Anyone else have the problem of grazing their shins at the beginning and end of the lifts? Especially when lifting heavy.


Yup. Routinely remove skin off shins and end up bleeding on the bar.


Everything I had read / seen said I should be raking the bar up and down my shins, so I'd just assumed that meant I was using decent form!


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#483 Re: Deadlifting
March 19, 2015, 10:33:24 pm
my 1rep max just went up by 10kg, cheers fiend. Can you work that magic for my crimp now  :2thumbsup:
There you go.

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#484 Re: Deadlifting
March 19, 2015, 10:59:19 pm

Anyone else have the problem of grazing their shins at the beginning and end of the lifts? Especially when lifting heavy.


Yup. Routinely remove skin off shins and end up bleeding on the bar.


Everything I had read / seen said I should be raking the bar up and down my shins, so I'd just assumed that meant I was using decent form!
I've always tried to maintain the same form regardless of the weight I'm attempting, but I'm not going for a world record or anything so the bar doesn't come into contact with my legs at all.

Perhaps that's why I'm maxing out at 2.2 times bodyweight. Well, either that or it's a throwback to imperial measurements :)

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#485 Re: Deadlifting
March 19, 2015, 11:17:07 pm
No shin scraping here either.

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#486 Re: Deadlifting
March 19, 2015, 11:21:07 pm
Shin scraping depends also on technique, hips/ankles flexibility and body proportions ( torso, arms and legs lenghts) that cause different angles at the ankles, knees and hips.

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#487 Re: Deadlifting
March 20, 2015, 05:31:39 am
No shin scraping here either.

Likewise, but I don't have amazing hamstring / hip flexibility, which may have something to do with it.

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#488 Re: Deadlifting
March 20, 2015, 06:26:03 pm
5 mins rowing, and no farting around waiting for bars...

1 x 5 x 80
1 x 5 x 100
1 x 5 x 120
1 x 3 x 130
3 x 1 x 140
1 x 5 x 100

120 felt nice and smooth, 130 felt more controlled. Progress! Thanks for the syke guys.

Obviously I should be doing proper climbing training for climbing like barras etc and just doing some incredibly structured aerocap-ancap-timed-interval-deadhang-bore-a-thon, but my skin and soft tissue have been so trashed from each day bouldering that I can't even think about pulling on wood let alone plastic and have had to rest 2 full days after each day out. Plus I'm sure the legwork helped a little bit stomping up a hill with some pads on recently...

P.S. Got the gym staff to check my technique the other week, everything was fine but the guy recommended I should be brushing lightly against my legs to help with thrusting the hips out. Seems to work fine, so I'm brushing shins etc but not scraping.

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#489 Re: Deadlifting
March 20, 2015, 06:36:08 pm
140 is pretty solid :)

Any noticable change in tension while climbing?

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#490 Re: Deadlifting
March 20, 2015, 07:19:58 pm
the def runs up my legs when deadlifting

you lads who enjoy doing a bit,id really recommend wrist straps. only a few quid off amazon and they make a big difference at the top end of what you can do.

after all remember you are doing deadlifts mainly for core ,shoulders,legs and mostly back.so grip failing before these is unwanted.

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#491 Re: Deadlifting
March 22, 2015, 02:54:24 pm
After a couple of weeks of doing squats instead, I went back to deadlifts the other day. Great session by my standards, best ever in fact  :weakbench:

1 x 5 x 100kg
1 x 5 x 120kg
1 x 5 x 130kg
1 x 5 x 140kg
1 x 4 x 140kg (was going for 5, but form was starting to wane on the 4th rep and I thought better of it)

This makes me believe that a rep at 2xBW is on the cards for me now (77kg -> 155kg to be sure), but I'm intending to just ramp gradually rather than push anything for the sake of numbers (pfft, and I claim to be a boulderer...). I'm definitely noticing some improvements in my climbing. My heel hooking on my left leg has always been shit compared to my right, but was much improved last session at the wall. Also, tried a nasty undercut sitstart that didn't feel within me, but powered through it first go ;D

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#492 Re: Deadlifting
March 22, 2015, 10:05:26 pm
140 is pretty solid :)

Any noticable change in tension while climbing?
Yeah, I reckon. When I did the Mandala the other week, I'm sure it helped locking my core in and keeping me on the footholds  :yes:

Bon effort benno  :strongbench:

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#493 Re: Deadlifting
March 25, 2015, 01:32:30 pm
Erm, what?!



Notable mashed right shin, but not left, so that's confuses the "should the bar touch my shins" debate even further...

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#494 Re: Deadlifting
March 25, 2015, 01:47:04 pm
Top climbing physique there, that's what we're all aiming for  :punk:

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#495 Re: Deadlifting
March 25, 2015, 01:56:16 pm
Shit, you're right! Someone delete it before Barrows gets in here to gloat...  ;)
« Last Edit: March 25, 2015, 02:18:56 pm by benno »

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#496 Re: Deadlifting
March 25, 2015, 04:59:07 pm
Top climbing physique there, that's what we're all aiming for  :punk:

You're almost there Matt.  ;)

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#497 Re: Deadlifting
March 25, 2015, 10:37:37 pm
Top climbing physique there, that's what we're all aiming for  :punk:

You're almost there Matt.  ;)
In sure that guy would've lifted more if he was wearing an amazing dayglo/camo/beanie combo

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#498 Re: Deadlifting
March 26, 2015, 09:09:47 am
It adds 1.5 grades to anyone's bouldering so yeah I reckon 480+ would have gone, then again the tattoos and mini-mohawk might have negated it.



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#499 Re: Deadlifting
March 30, 2015, 01:25:45 pm
you lads who enjoy doing a bit,id really recommend wrist straps. only a few quid off amazon and they make a big difference at the top end of what you can do.

 Word

just tried straps today for the first time and straight off added 10kg to my PB - thanks Mark

 

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