Deadlifting (Read 241663 times)

benno · April 17, 2015, 10:03:27 pm

Well, that was enlightening. Warmed up and decided to see what I could do as just one rep. 160kg felt... surprisingly OK. I didn't go any further, but there was some leeway still. Who knew my grip was so bad?

Also, YYFY, 2BW FTW OMFG!

Fiend · April 17, 2015, 10:15:16 pm

a dense loner · April 18, 2015, 07:59:45 am

"Who knew my grip was so bad"

Everyone who's used straps before

mark s · April 19, 2015, 08:09:15 pm

Quote from: Fiend on April 17, 2015, 01:32:54 pm

Quote from: benno on April 15, 2015, 12:12:31 pm
Is there any point in this, do we reckon?
Yeah, cos it will shut Tris Fox up and stop him waffling on about wrist straps being cheating despite that bloody video of Arnie congratulating the guy doing a world record with straps. Mark do you fancy meeting up at Ramshaw or something next time Tris and I are down in the peak, so you can beat his fat arse with your 140kg pressing arms??

(i.e. no but it's up to you, I might do the same, just for fun)

easy

Muenchener · April 21, 2015, 07:06:00 pm

Recovering bodybuilder Kris Hampton of Power Company Climbing has an interesting article on Deadlifting for Climbing: Truth or Trend?

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Those whose climbing WILL likely benefit from lifting
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2. The Aging

Count me in then.

kelvin · April 21, 2015, 08:28:39 pm

... and he also counts me out, as I'm basically a new climber.

*phew

benno · April 22, 2015, 09:27:00 am

Good link, Muenchener. I think that's pretty much what I thought about it all already. If it wasn't so much easier for me to get to the gym than the wall, I certainly wouldn't spend as much time there as I do, but despite being 27, I figure I may as well treat myself as "aging" already and try and fix my posture and strength imbalances preemptively. Deadlifting seems to being doing the (part of) trick for me, with the added benefit that I enjoy it. It also feels like it transfers very well to some aspects of climbing, particularly using undercuts on steep climbs.

Fiend · September 13, 2015, 07:48:10 pm

First time in the gym for ages yesterday, after a month or two climbing trad as good as I ever have. Struggled to do 1 rep of 130kg after warming up. Hands were a bit sweaty, but even so.

Conclusion: trad is rubbish training for deadlifting. You have been warned.

a dense loner · September 13, 2015, 09:27:17 pm

But it appears deadlifting has done wonders for your trad

Oldmanmatt · September 14, 2015, 08:40:30 am

Quote from: Fiend on September 13, 2015, 07:48:10 pm

Conclusion: trad is rubbish. You have been warned.

Fixed that little typo you made.

You're welcome.

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Bubba · September 19, 2015, 08:36:00 pm

http://i.imgur.com/fhDgeyl.gifv

Fiend · September 20, 2015, 09:08:51 am

very literally!

fatneck · September 22, 2015, 09:22:47 am

Beastette!!!

a dense loner · September 22, 2015, 10:17:42 am

That's impressive!!

Oldmanmatt · September 24, 2015, 01:36:32 pm

Quote from: a dense loner on September 22, 2015, 10:17:42 am

That's impressive!!

So is that!

Are you feeling ok?

Sorry, I feel the world is off kilter when you're nice....

Fiend · March 21, 2016, 10:13:49 am

Quote from: shark

Eve, Wrist complex Bolton complex DB curls DB overhead press Deadlift 1x 147.5 (PB) 1 x 150 (another PB) 1x 152.5 almost. BTW I don't include the weight of the bar - not sure what the etiquette is with this

Good effort sir. Impressive for a skinny cunt who has been wasting far too much time dicking around on The Oak instead of deadlifting. The bars at my gym arw 15 or 20kgs so that's a strong total!

Fultonius · March 21, 2016, 10:43:54 am

Quote from: Fiend on March 21, 2016, 10:13:49 am

Quote from: shark
Eve, Wrist complex Bolton complex DB curls DB overhead press Deadlift 1x 147.5 (PB) 1 x 150 (another PB) 1x 152.5 almost. BTW I don't include the weight of the bar - not sure what the etiquette is with this

Good effort sir. Impressive for a skinny cunt who has been wasting far too much time dicking around on The Oak instead of deadlifting. The bars at my gym arw 15 or 20kgs so that's a strong total!

Are we talkin' pounds, or kilos here??

Fiend · March 21, 2016, 03:31:16 pm

Kilos surely, given it's going to 0.5 increments. Pounds will be subdivided into 17½ grommets or bushels or something....

shark · March 21, 2016, 04:56:36 pm

Quote from: Fultonius on March 21, 2016, 10:43:54 am

Quote from: Fiend on March 21, 2016, 10:13:49 am
Quote from: shark
Eve, Wrist complex Bolton complex DB curls DB overhead press Deadlift 1x 147.5 (PB) 1 x 150 (another PB) 1x 152.5 almost. BTW I don't include the weight of the bar - not sure what the etiquette is with this

Good effort sir. Impressive for a skinny cunt who has been wasting far too much time dicking around on The Oak instead of deadlifting. The bars at my gym arw 15 or 20kgs so that's a strong total!

Are we talkin' pounds, or kilos here??

jwi · March 22, 2016, 09:45:02 pm

A 190 kg deadlift is quite OK. For a 16 year old girl.

(Ms Winroth does powerlifting on the side, her main focus is football. She plays in the highest division in Sweden. Yes, she's also did 190 kg in competition)

shark · March 22, 2016, 09:59:40 pm

Quote from: Fiend on March 21, 2016, 03:31:16 pm

Kilos surely, given it's going to 0.5 increments. Pounds will be subdivided into 17½ grommets or bushels or something....

Still not weighed the bar but here's a video of my attempt at 152.5kg with my form collapsing from the off for your amusement

Sasquatch · March 23, 2016, 05:53:45 am

That's so bizarre to me. I've never once failed if i can get it off the ground

Nibile · March 23, 2016, 08:59:23 am

Shark, given that you've done your PB and have pulled some serious poundage, may I suggest that you assess your form? You seem to be doing what I was doing too, that is more a Romanian Deadlift. It's fine, but it could be a bit more dangerous.
If you watch the video, you'll see that your hips shoot up before the bar lifts the ground. You have a rounded upper back and that's fine, and your lower back is neutral which is good also.
But then when pulling you find yourself with torso at 90 degrees, legs almost straight and the lower back a little rounded. Also, your neck isn't neutral, you're looking up. If you pause the video, you'll see that your spine makes an S from neck to lower back. This is not good, especially if pulling lots of weight.
I think, from what I've read, that your deadlift (like mine was) is too little legs driven. The angle of the torso should remain constant throughout the first part of the pull, with lower back extending after the bar has cleared the knees. There should be a hips and knee extension at the same time, while you shoot hips up, extend the knees and then pull with just the lower back. I was making the same thing.
I've read that you should keep the neck neutral by trying to make a double chin, so not looking up, and that you should depress the scapulae and "make a big chest" before and during the pull. The trick is: if a person in front of you can't read what's written on your t-shirt, you're too low.
I would also check the stance width, I can't be sure but your feet seem to be quite close together. This could cause poor hips mobility for the fist part of the pull.

I tell you this just because you seem to be quite psyched and you clearly are quite strong in the DL, so a perfect form could be giving you great results.
HTH

rodma · March 23, 2016, 10:53:43 am

Quote from: Sasquatch on March 23, 2016, 05:53:45 am

That's so bizarre to me. I've never once failed if i can get it off the ground

i blame the carpet

shark · March 23, 2016, 11:23:09 am

Hi Nibs

I was psyched to get the result but really I just did those two lifts as an afterthought which is what I tend to do about every 3/4 weeks or so.

My form did collapse when I started lifting but in the starting position I had my feet and head in line with the Mark Rippetoe instructional video that I follow.