[Muenchener]

I'm having a spell of work & family stuff interfering with getting to the wall at the moment, and since I can't rule out the possibility of this happening again, I'm thinking it might be worth getting a fingerboard to use at home. Beastmaker seems to be the one to go for, but which one? I'm currently bouldering around 6B. Would a 2000 have too few things on it that I can actually use? But otoh I don't see that I have obvious need for the jugs on the 1000 - if I want to do pullups, front lever progressions & stuff I already have rings.

I can hang the 30 slopers on a 2000 for a few seconds, but that's about the limit of my market research so far.

[markmcgowan01]

get the 2000 model.

[Dexter]

I would say go for the 1000 yes the jugs become a bit useless if you have rings but the rest of the holds are much better suited and will still go to around 7C and beyond. Also the only holds you can really simulate on the 2000 with a 1000 are the monos, the slopey 2 finger pockets and the 45's all of which are pretty nails anyway

[Nibile]

I'd say the 1000, seems like it has a good variety of holds and you can build up strength for future progressions.
on the other hand, if it's going to be your main training tool for longer, or if you fancy going through pain and suffering a bit more, get the 2000, and work your way up holds you didn't imagine you could hang.

[tomtom]

1000. I have both, climb about 7a and a little upwards and ifs more than good enough for my needs. I prefer the big jugs was they are easier to warm up on than the 2000..

[Luthor]

2000 plus a chinup bar. Sorted 

[richie0210]

I'm not suggesting one model over the other as I've never seen a 1000 in the flesh but I have and use the 2000. My girlfriend boulders 6a/6b and uses it regularly without any issues..

[namnok]

just bought the 2k yesterday
looks fierce but over the 1k, it feels like i can improve better with the 2k

showed it off to mrs namnok and she wasnt impressed with where i wanted it (knocked thru partition between living and dining room, so i can watch the tv whilst just hanging around)
she asked if i could at least white wash it( ) to blend it in
i then dropped the beast in shock and it bounced off my head onto hers then off her shoulder, onto the table missing my phone by mere cms then crashing to the floor
she now has a bruise on her shoulder, but more importantly the beastmaker's fine

[chris05]

I have a 2000, haven't used the 1000 but would buy the 2k again. The harder holds give you something to aim for and its surprising what you can hang with a bit of training. To warm up you can use the 25 slopers or the large in-cut holds, a pull-up bar or use assistance from a foot on a chair.

[SA Chris]

I think the 1000 will be more than adequate for your needs.

[Muenchener]

Thanks guys.

Looks like no clear consensus either way (counting Nibs as a vote for both - some kind of Italian PR voting system).

1000: surely more than adequate for my current needs.
2000: would be more of an ego/ambition stroker.

One of my local walls has both, so I should probably go and do a couple of sessions & then decide.

[Big Dave]

One of my local walls has both, so I should probably go and do a couple of sessions & then decide.

Makes sense, give em both a test drive and then decide.

[tomtom]

Ensure you mount correctly... :/

[joeisidle]

I've been using a 1000 as my main fingerboard for some time and it's been easily adequate for training into the low-mid font 7s. Even once you reach that stage there's more than enough you can do on it to get stronger, I certainly have many goals on it that I still feel a long way off (ie. hanging any hold on it that isn't massive one-handed). As Dexter said, the main holds the 2000 has that the 1000 doesn't are two-finger slopey pockets and 45 degree slopers, both of which I would not have considered going anywhere near when I was at a 6b level (they still both feel near-impossible even now). Also, if you manage to get any finger injuries on it the jugs on the 1000 are a godsend and way more comfortable (imo) than a bar to do pullups on.

[Dexter]

Thanks guys.

Looks like no clear consensus either way (counting Nibs as a vote for both - some kind of Italian PR voting system).

1000: surely more than adequate for my current needs.
2000: would be more of an ego/ambition stroker.

One of my local walls has both, so I should probably go and do a couple of sessions & then decide.

both? if you have room then you can become a mega beast. You can then mount one above another and campus between them

[tomtom]

I've been using a 1000 as my main fingerboard for some time and it's been easily adequate for training into the low-mid font 7s. Even once you reach that stage there's more than enough you can do on it to get stronger, I certainly have many goals on it that I still feel a long way off (ie. hanging any hold on it that isn't massive one-handed). As Dexter said, the main holds the 2000 has that the 1000 doesn't are two-finger slopey pockets and 45 degree slopers, both of which I would not have considered going anywhere near when I was at a 6b level (they still both feel near-impossible even now). Also, if you manage to get any finger injuries on it the jugs on the 1000 are a godsend and way more comfortable (imo) than a bar to do pullups on.

What Joe said...

[Eliasn]

I haven't tried the 1000, so i can't say anything about it, but i recently got the 2000 and ive been using it for the past month, i boulder at around 6a and there is plenty for me to use on it, staying away from the monos though and i have no chance of using the steepest slopers either. But ive noticed some decent progression and so it feels good to have harder stuff left on it to keep it challenging. So i would go with the 2000, but thats just me.

[underground]

Ensure you mount correctly... :/

Looks like your curtains need ironing too Tom. Tsk.

[Muenchener]

Ensure you mount correctly... :/

Oh yes. I've served my diy time in older houses. "Would madam like the shelf horizontal, parallel to the ceiling, or parallel to the floor?"

[tomtom]

Ensure you mount correctly... :/

Looks like your curtains need ironing too Tom. Tsk.

Humph..   it was a miracle it stayed up for 3 months screwed into the congealed soot that holds my house together..

[Muenchener]

Did a test drive at the wall today, and discovered that the 1000 is more than enough for my needs for the foreseeable future. There are about three holds on the 2000 on which I could make a plausible attempt at repeaters. Even on the 1000 it would be some time before I would be venturing far off the middle rung.

[Nibile]

welcome to your future!

[tommytwotone]

Ensure you mount correctly... :/

Looks like your curtains need ironing too Tom. Tsk.

Humph..   it was a miracle it stayed up for 3 months screwed into the congealed soot that holds my house together..

[Muenchener]

welcome to your future!

I finally bought one, rigged a hanging arrangement for it, and started the beginners' repeater programme for a test drive. And quickly discovered a problem.

On well broken-in beastmakers at walls, I can hang the 35 sloper well in control. I haven't tried rigorously timed repeaters, but I can do multiple several-second hangs. On my new shiny one, I can't hang the sloper at all 

What do I do now? Current temperatures preclude sweating. I've tried lightly moistening with spit & water: no joy.  Not foolish enough to try chalk. Not keen on coarse sandpaper as I don't want to wear my new toy away / inadvertently change the angle. But what then? If I can't even begin to hang it how can I break it in?

[Nibile]

Stick at it and keep the faith! It will all come together as soon as they get a bit chalked. Maybe you can try to hang them with some nestling on the 20 slopers' edge or by pinching with the thumb underneath.