[nai]

5th link on Google

http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en_GB/athlete-bio-macleod-dave.html

[Nibile]

I have no problem with him dieting. I simply would not have done it, even to climb 8c.
I am very interested into knowing how much he weighed before dieting.

Strange given that you just posted this:

Power Club
STG - one board project, go and try the route at least once before Summer.

...

Sun - more rest after a night on the wc... Lost three kilos. Let's jump on the project!

Just out of interest what is the difference between Dave Mac losing weight to get better and you losing weight and then deciding its time to try your project? Presumably Dave started lighter than you but also presumably Dave climbs harder than you?

The difference is that I was joking!
I can't believe you took me seriously!
I also posted in the YYFY thread that I feel as weak as a malnourished kitten!
There's no way I can do anything on my board at the moment! :-)

[36chambers]

5th link on Google

http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en_GB/athlete-bio-macleod-dave.html

cheers I gave up after 4

[Duncan campbell]

The difference is that I was joking!
I can't believe you took me seriously!
I also posted in the YYFY thread that I feel as weak as a malnourished kitten!
There's no way I can do anything on my board at the moment! :-)

Ah... my mistake

[Nibile]

"pissed out of the wc", to use an Italian saying.

What does this mean?

Saying or doing something wrong or out of place.

[SA Chris]

English equivalent - "Shat on his own doorstep?"

[Doylo]

Nothing tastes as good as 8C feels

[Lund]

English equivalent - "Shat on his own doorstep?"

No - that means if you're going to do dirty business, don't do it nearby: keep some distance.

Nibs - out of place how?  Like being a bit weird, offensively so?

[a dense loner]

English equivalent to piss out of the pot. You don't say things like this?

[Nibile]

Edited. Needless.

[a dense loner]

My last post was a little unclear. I meant there is an English expression which is exactly the same, except use pot instead of wc.

[Sasquatch]

So Dave Mac was 5'8" and 66kg, so a BMI of 22, and dropped to 60kg or a BMI of 20.  Still very much in the "normal" range.  Daniel woods is 5'8" and i think he is about 130-135 as well. BFD

A few years ago I did an extract of climber data from 8a.nu for the top 100 ranked boulderers and the average BMI was about 20, route climbers was about 19. I think the highest BMI for boulderers in the top 100 was about 24, lowest was about 18. 

By the way, I only use BMI because it creates a useful comparison of height to weight. 

On a personal note, that means I only need to drop 44lbs to get to 8C   

[Fiend]

Isn't BMI commonly regarded as an equal amount of horseshit for well muscled athletes.

Bear in mind that this is a man who used to run up Ben Nevis for a "rest day". I doubt his tyre compares to John Dunne or me or Fatneck or JackAus2014version or JamieG (is he the poster who is like 100kg and 7'8")....

[monkoffunk]

Useless as marker of health, useful in context of relative weight comparison.

What should he have said? We all know what he meant.

[Nibile]

Wow, that's strange to me! 172 x 66 kg pre diet, is basically my height and weight now, I'm 170 x 67 at the moment. But he already looked very small and thin! I'd have thought he was around 62, nothing more. 
He either had very big legs or really I don't know.

[Duma]

You'd have to lose 2.5kg to be comparable Nibs. pretty significant I reckon.

[Nibile]

You'd have to lose 2.5kg to be comparable Nibs. pretty significant I reckon.

Yes of course, in terms of fighting weight for sure. But I was just referring to his look. He looked so thin that I would have never imagined he was 66!
Incidentally, until one year ago, before starting my lifting cure, I was exactly 2 kilos lighter than now, at 65, the same weight I've had for ages. But I don't think I looked as slim as Dave. Maybe he's made of very dense stuff.

[slackline]

Maybe he's made of very dense stuff.

Or theres some optical distortion going on from whatever lense is being used to film.

[Duma]

Not sure I was clear, you said he  was (pre diet) basically the same weight and height as you, but the differences are significant. You're both shorter and heavier than he was. To have the same bmi (worthwhile comparative measure here, given you're both athletic), at your height you'd need to weigh 64.5 kg, a significant drop, and I guess would make a noticeable difference to how you look.

[shark]

English equivalent to piss out of the pot. You don't say things like this?

My last post was a little unclear. I meant there is an English expression which is exactly the same, except use pot instead of wc.

I've never heard the expression. Are you confusing it with "not having a pot to piss in?"

[Nibile]

Not sure I was clear, you said he  was (pre diet) basically the same weight and height as you, but the differences are significant. You're both shorter and heavier than he was. To have the same bmi (worthwhile comparative measure here, given you're both athletic), at your height you'd need to weigh 64.5 kg, a significant drop, and I guess would make a noticeable difference to how you look.

Ah, ok. Anyway I've been steady at 65 for ages, as I wrote just before you posted, but I still looked beefier.
It was just a curiosity though, nothing important.

[shark]

Best blog post ever? What a story. Recovery from injury to do one of the World's hardest and lots of insights.

Having seen him in the flesh its hard to imagine where he lost the weight from and how so cant wait for the follow on post. 

I knew it could happen next session. But I also knew this could get harder psychologically - playing defensively creates pressure. When all you have to do is not blow your chance, somehow this becomes much harder to avoid!

Ain't that the truth

[a dense loner]

No shark I'm not, there's any myriad of expressions with the same premise. On another note Dave and Daniel may be 5'8 if stood on a step. The only way they've seen 5'8 is by looking up

[ghisino]

Not everybody is as light/heavy as they look.

When I complain about being a bit too heavy, most people (including other climbers) consistently underestimate my weight- they would say something less than my "performance weight" and in some occasions even less than my post-puberty lightest.

[shark]

"pissed out of the wc", to use an Italian saying.

What does this mean?

Saying or doing something wrong or out of place.

English equivalent to piss out of the pot. You don't say things like this?

My last post was a little unclear. I meant there is an English expression which is exactly the same, except use pot instead of wc.

I've never heard the expression. Are you confusing it with "not having a pot to piss in?"

No shark I'm not, there's any myriad of expressions with the same premise.

It is now vital that I get this idiomatic earworm straight (for my own sanity). For both expressions are we talking about someone standing in a wc and pissing out of it which would be a totally weird and inappropriate thing to do. Or are we talking about someone standing in a conventional place and pissing out(side) of the pot ie missing the target / point?.