[benpritch]

why do nikon users have irrational hatred of canon? not being from a stills background i am intrigued.

[cofe]

not enough buttons on the cameras for their liking.

[dave]

why do nikon users have irrational hatred of canon? not being from a stills background i am intrigued.

We don't. Its just a great laugh winding up Canonists. Personally I do find nikons are more user friendly and laid out in a better way though - what the fuck is the deal with canons having the power switch down at the bottom at the back for instance? Were they on crack when they designed that?

Seriously though I use Canon products every day and I would have no problem buying an using a Canon if I was in the market for a fax machine.

[Tris]

why do nikon users have irrational hatred of canon? not being from a stills background i am intrigued.

I am interested to know if its the same the other way round, do Canon users hate Nikon too?

[benpritch]

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[cofe]

I don't really give a shit who my camera's made by. Just happened to buy Canon 10+ years ago. If I was buying from scratch I'd also be looking at D700 or one of the Sonys.

[Yossarian]

Does this Nikon user look like he cares about Canon?

[dave]

When I picked up Cofe's 20d I spent the first 12 minutes wondering why the power switch was in a position that could be operated by neither hand when picking up or holding the camera in any of the normal ways. Its like the designed it for Zaphod Beeblebrox.



(You're gonna have to stop deleting posts that I'm replying to Ben....)

[Yossarian]

And of course, Jefferson Hack modelling the Vietnam look on his recent trip to the Eden Project...

[Tris]

Does this Nikon user look like he cares about Canon?

What make is the video camera? 

[benpritch]

as far as i can see nikon users have been seduced by some macho bullshit image of themselves in the nam and are easily confused. when did you ever have to switch your camera on after you held it up to your eye?

sorry about deleting post dave, can't remember what was in it - oh that can on are more user friendly or something.

[Stu Littlefair]

Dave, this is why you're wrong about Canons

[cofe]

Jordan taking a break from a cutting edge redpoint to shoot some tits in a tree?

[cofe]

i can't believe i've never managed to turn my cameras on. what a fucking mug.

[Yossarian]

Dave, this is why you're wrong about Canons

If there's a LV monographed one of those then I'm sold...

[cofe]

or a flesh coloured one with a bell end.

[Jaspersharpe]

If there's a LV monographed one of those then I'm sold... Vinnie Jones will have six at $40,000 a pop despite not knowing what it's for.

[Yossarian]

I meant MONOGRAMMED, but if I see Vinnie Jones with one then I might just give up on the idea...

Gold and snakeskin is where it's at anyhow.

[Jim]

canon 5d has a full frame 35mm sensor. even hd broadcast cameras like sony hdw f 900 l only have a two-thirds inch chip.

so there are no camcorders with a full frame sensor and a dslr is shooting better video?
are all the people that design and make camcorders on crack then?
why don't they get a 5d and put a camcorder body on it at the very least?

[tomtom]

canon 5d has a full frame 35mm sensor. even hd broadcast cameras like sony hdw f 900 l only have a two-thirds inch chip.

so there are no camcorders with a full frame sensor and a dslr is shooting better video?
are all the people that design and make camcorders on crack then?
why don't they get a 5d and put a camcorder body on it at the very least?

Theres a good business opportunity there for you Jim, all you need is some black plastic, some parcel tape  - some subtle re-branding and a hefty mark up! 

[JamesD]

canon 5d has a full frame 35mm sensor. even hd broadcast cameras like sony hdw f 900 l only have a two-thirds inch chip.

so there are no camcorders with a full frame sensor and a dslr is shooting better video?
are all the people that design and make camcorders on crack then?
why don't they get a 5d and put a camcorder body on it at the very least?

Ahem..... http://www.visionresearch.com/index.cfm?sector=htm/files&page=camera_HD_new

Costs a little more, however it pretty much blows everything else out the water in the digital video world, in terms of low light performance, a pixel pitch/size around 30% bigger than the Nikon D3S which is pretty outrageous. Add in ridiculously high FPS and you have the grand master as things stand......that is until RED pull their finger out and get all of their new products released.

[tomtom]

Dragging this thread back on topic - I've still not bought a DSLR, though have been tracking the fluctuating prices of D5000's.. (seem to vary on day to day from £460-£520.. ) though having semi decided on a Nikon, I had a play with my dads 500d over xmas and quite liked it... any thoughts (said he pouring oil on the Nikon vs Canon debate,.)

[Tris]

Nikon Nikon Nikon 

[dave]

go with whatever suits you best and the best price at the time. Lenses are going to be equally OK between canon and nikon, except that some of the canon kit lenses are shit.

Look at stuff that matters, like usabilty (everything to hand, no queer button issues), flash control, viewfinder size and layout (less cluttered and big is best), general handling, and also build quality. Try not to be swayed by things that don't really matter, like resolution and "features".

[slackline]

Go with what you like and can afford.  Handle the Nikon you're considering buying too.
What dave said!

Keeping things vaguely on topic (although just musing about future purchases)...I'd been toying with the idea of upgrading my body to the D300(s) this year (fed up with crap grainy images at high ISO and built-in sensor cleaning is very appealing), but reading around I think I'm going to stick with the entry level as the D90 seems just as good in terms of quality, and all you're paying for with the D300 is a magnesium body and marginally better sealing which just adds weight.