[205Chris]

I went to check the place out this morning - didn't get on anything but it looks awesome and need to head back with a rope soon.

Thormen's looked reasonably dry apart from a few of the pockets which looked a bit damp.

Most of the other stuff looked dryish as well.

[Nike Air]

Thanks

[Bonjoy]

Just a note for anyone thinking about going to Thor's. I haven't been down there but I'd guess it will be in prime condition. This sort of weather (mild and breezy) is perfect for zero condensation. Given how dry it was a couple of weeks back and the weather since I'd say the seapage will be minimal too.
Just thought I'd mention this, seeing as people seem to want to go to Thor's in the worst possible weather (high pressure, hot, humid) and then ignore it when the conditions improve. If you want to go there, i'd say now is a very good time.

[Adam Lincoln]

For those that haven't been and want somewhere different to go. I can't tell you how much you will like Thormans Moth. Get to it! 

[205Chris]

Anyone know whether the cave is likely to be dry at the moment? Thinking of heading over tomorrow afternoon and interested in the easier stuff like Midgard / Fenris.

[Bonjoy]

Most places are seepy at the mo so I guess Thors will be the same

[dod]

has anyone been yet this year? is it dry or likely to be dry? mainly interested in doing thormens moth

[shark]

has anyone been yet this year? is it dry or likely to be dry? mainly interested in doing thormens moth

Going on Jon's comments above (Just thought I'd mention this, seeing as people seem to want to go to Thor's in the worst possible weather (high pressure, hot, humid) and then ignore it when the conditions improve.) I would think its likely to be a bit greasy at the mo.

[Johnny Brown]

On the other hand, given the third driest spring in 70 years (or summat) its pretty likely to be completely dry. Given some shade and a breeze it can be cooler than down t'dales too.

[Adam Lincoln]

On the other hand, given the third driest spring in 70 years (or summat) its pretty likely to be completely dry. Given some shade and a breeze it can be cooler than down t'dales too.

A dry spring doesn't make it good conditions in there. Temp changes are far more of a problem.

[Bonjoy]

I’ve been to Thor’s a lot and it’s no worse than many other crags condensation wise, it’s just that people seem to choose to go there as an ‘escape the heat’ option on the worst still high pressure days, during which conditions are ming.
The problem on still hot days is often due to hill fog during the night, so generally speaking a visit later in the day is better than an early morning hit.
Looking at the forecast for this week I’d say now is a good time to visit (falling temps and breezy). I'd wager that all the seepage will have stopped, given the dryness of the Cornice.

[dod]

cool thanks. i'll see if i can check it out this week and report back.

[Johnny Brown]

A dry spring doesn't make it good conditions in there. Temp changes are far more of a problem.

Well a dry spring is a good start. What I was saying was that it seemed naive to write it off for the last month on the basis that its been a bit warm. As I said, its far more likely to catch a breeze up there than anywhere in Cheedale.

[Bonjoy]

 

[Tommy]

Anyone been in the last few days? Is it likely to be ok with all this rain?

We'll be on Thormen's, Dan's new route and Bonjoy's upside down trench.... 

[Johnny Brown]

Was there on friday. Little bit of spooge in the back of the small pockets on Thormen's, otherwise bone.

[slackline]

Was there on friday. Little bit of spooge in the back of the small pockets on Thormen's, otherwise bone.

Good work  

[Johnny Brown]

Not my pic - I'm belaying. Robbie Shone was on photo detail.

[SA Chris]

Great pic, how is it lit?

[Johnny Brown]

Two flashes - one on floor bottom right, one held just to camera right. We'd been there for hours, but Robbie, being a caving photographer, wasn't interested until it was dark...

[Bonjoy]

Was there the about a week ago and the stuff we went on in the back of the cave was all bone dry. Caff did the second ascent of Escape to Valhalla and reckons 8a rather than the 7c+. Getting back on it I tend agree. I've got some low quality pics I'll try and post later.

[Bonjoy]

Not quite up to the standard of Robbie's pic, but hey ho.

[Tommy]

Cool - looks good! Is Escape to Valhalla the trench jobby? Can't wait.... 

[Bonjoy]

No, the trenchy one is Midgard Serpent, the next route right of EtV. You can see the crack/trench to Caff's right.
For thrutch afficionados the harder finish to EtV is good Fun. Ragnarok 8a - same as EtV to the roof then continue right along the lower of the two roof cracks all the way to the west wall. The crux involves gaining a perched slab by reaching ahead of yourself with a kneebar. Can also be climbed all the way from the back of the cave to finish up West Window Groove as a six pitch 7c+, headtorch needed.

[Neil F]

Would the initial pitches of the 6-pitch 7c+ be worth climbing on their own, Jon?  (for the non-7c+ climbers amongst us!).

I have a headtorch....

Neil